Dick Cheney Condones Torture in ABC Interview with Jonathan Karl, Claims US Has Not Used Torture Techniques

On December 15, 2008, ABC’s Jonathan Karl interviewed Vice President Dick Cheney, who actually managed to evince more delusional confidence than even anticipated. When asked about torture, Cheney disregarded criticism about his part in Guantanamo as the pish-posh of ignoramuses.

 

Here’s a choice bit:

KARL: But you've heard leaders, the incoming Congress, saying that this policy has basically been torture and illegal wiretapping, and that they want to undo, basically, the central tenets of your anti-terrorism policy.


CHENEY:
They're wrong…


On the question of so-called torture, we don't do torture. We never have. It's not something that this administration subscribes to. Again, we proceeded very cautiously. We checked. We had the Justice Department issue the requisite opinions in order to know where the bright lines were that you could not cross.


The professionals involved in that program were very, very cautious, very careful -- wouldn't do anything without making certain it was authorized and that it was legal. And any suggestion to the contrary is just wrong. Did it produce the desired results? I think it did.


I think, for example, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who was the number three man in al Qaeda, the man who planned the attacks of 9/11, provided us with a wealth of information. There was a period of time there, three or four years ago, when about half of everything we knew about al Qaeda came from that one source. So, it's been a remarkably successful effort. I think the results speak for themselves.


And I think
those who allege that we've been involved in torture, or that somehow we violated the Constitution or laws with the terrorist surveillance program, simply don't know what they're talking about.

Hmmm. That’s funny, because I seem to recall Cheney endorsing John McCain in his bid for the presidency on November 1st. And yet, I also seem to recall Senator McCain saying in 2007, “Anyone who knows what waterboarding is could not be unsure. It is a horrible torture technique used by Pol Pot and being used on Buddhist monks as we speak.” So did Cheney endorse a man who didn’t know what he was talking about? Or was McCain suddenly a viable candidate after caving to partisan politics in February 2008 when he voted against a bill to preclude the CIA from using torture during interrogations?

 

Also, perhaps Cheney and Bush need to take in some couples' therapy, since they don't seem to be communicating with each other very well. This spring, President Bush admitted to the use of "enhanced interrogation" techniques, the semantic equivalent of "torture" used in political rhetoric, so he should inform Dick "We don't do torture. We never have." Cheney. Or maybe Cheney should stop lying through his teeth to the American people.

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Okay seems to have a length limit, wonder what it is? We'll have to find out... Posted 12/18/2008 06:28 AMReply
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Cheney looking right in the eye of the interviewer and lying as he does is well-practiced psychopathic behavior. A good psychopath can seem so sincere and honest in their belief of the yarn they are spinning. Keep in mind both Cheney and Rumsfeld were part of the Nixon team and that they have been involved in 'shadow government' scenarios (intended to maintain continuity of government after nuclear war etc.) since that time, they know how to spin a story all right. Here they are protecting us from harm, mostly harm they instigated in one way or another some debateable but there is solid physics that gives the lie to their massive scam by these simple facts:

The simple facts of temperatures:

* 1535ºC (2795ºF) - melting point of iron
* ~1510ºC (2750ºF) - melting point of typical structural steel
* ~825ºC (1517ºF) - maximum temperature of hydrocarbon fires burning in the atmosphere without pressurization or pre-heating (premixed fuel and air - blue flame)
Posted 12/18/2008 06:29 AMReply
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WHAT THIS MEANS is that the tons of molten steel found at the bases of WTCs 1, 2, *and* 7 could not have been formed by fires fueled by jet fuel and office furnishings. It's just physically impossible. Deniers and deceivers will claim it doesn't exist, then they will claim it is aluminum, then they will claim it formed from rust which underwent chemical reactions, but in the end everyone who honestly examines the evidence does realize it exists, see http://moltenmetalsmokinggun.blogspot.com for example and more links. This is real, this is science, this is physical laws that don't get altered by wishful thinking. As uncomfortable as it has made me to realize, I am forced to the conclusion that the official story of 9/11 cannot be true. And this in context with so many other unanswered questions - like why were hundreds of Saudis including bin Laden family members allowed to flee the country when all other air traffic was grounded? Like why did Bush on two occasions describe in some detail how he saw the first plane strike on TV and how he thought the first one was just an accident by a bad pilot, twice he tells the story but there was no live public TV feed of the first strike so what he said is completely impossible and sounds like the kind of story a liar might invent on the fly once and then defend even in the face of questioning.

But there has been no questioning, the media are giving Bush a huge pass on anything which implicates him in the 9/11 mass murders. And that can only happen if the media are somehow complicit themselves. It is easy for namecallers to start hooting 'conspiracy theory' and attacking the messenger but real journalists are supposed to be better than this and examine the facts. The fact are there, they are not hidden, Anderson Cooper knows them full well but he's the last we'll hear from about Bush and 9/11, he's an old CIA man himself like much of the media that is spoonfeeding illusions to Americans and the world. Most people have been lapping it up for a long time, but I think the tide has turned with Obama's election. If he achieves anywhere near his promises, truth will no longer be denied. I am simply hoping and praying that he is not in on it somehow and will do something unconscionable like pardon Bush and Cheney even knowing they did 9/11. Obama has to have advisors who know that the hard science of flame temperatures and melting points presents him with smoking gun evidence that the official 'conspiracy theory' is a lie and that the perpetrators of the lie are the ones who have been exploiting and benefitting from it.
Posted 12/18/2008 06:29 AMReply
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Finally, observe that when FACTS are denied or deflected by namecalling and attacking the messenger, that phenomenon itself VALIDATES THOSE FACTS by adding to the proof that they cannot be refuted. If they could be refuted, they would be, but since they can't, and since both psychopathic and authoritarian behavior patterns permit any barbarity (for example Dick Cheney here approving of torture), they tend toward the lowlife namecalling type, just observe for yourself... Posted 12/18/2008 06:36 AMReply
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Someone should put Cheney on a waterboard to give him a good idea of how it feels. Posted 12/19/2008 1:57 PMReply
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I've read the book, "9/11, The Big Lie," by Thierry Meyssan, who challenges the entire version of the Sept. 11 attacks. Page after page, Meyssan presents facts/figures/documents to support his position that the Bush administration perpetrated the horror we all witnessed that day. Posted 12/19/2008 2:37 PMReply
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We face abnormal people in Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/neocons who know that they are mediocrities and are convinced that they have held power by a fluke. So, anything they do was deemed OK because power will go as absurdly as it came to them...so they should make the best of it, whatewver the concequences to America. Their solution to mediocrity is to "act outside the [truth/law] box" in order to win. Now, near the end, they are scared and Cheney is CYA-ing himself threatening Bush that he won't go down quiet as did Scooter Libby. REAL American will see this retrspective investigation through to its conclusions, following every point no matter how long it takes or where it leads. Think that you owe it to *your own* kids if you suffer from the "ain't my kid going to Iraq" disconnect syndrome and can't care about the 5,000 lives lost, leaving behind widows and orphans, in fighting the neocon's Crusade against Islam through what they call "World War IV." Once a Leninist propagandist, a neocon will always be a Leninist liar, even though now he serves (and gets well payed for it) the Military-Industrial Complex. Even if no one goes to jail, exposing the truth so neocons have to wear it as long as they live is our nation's obligation to humanity. If Congress fails to set the record staight and make public the documents, they should all be drummed out of office. Without our cleansing our Bush "gut" in public, the world will always see us as full of you know what! Posted 12/19/2008 4:29 PMReply
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Anonymous, you're a nutjob! Take off the aluminum foil hat... Posted 12/19/2008 5:41 PMReply
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Anonymous, you're a nutjob! Take off the aluminum foil hat... Posted 12/19/2008 5:41 PMReply
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why don't we all take off our aluminum hats and just follow the money trail.try parkers pathways and Hawkes cafe for some very insightful information. Posted 12/24/2008 01:22 AMReply
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