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Phi Ep Dont Want No Trailor (sic) Trash
By Steph (OTR Editor) Tags: greek life, hazing, phi epsilon, courtney holt, hofstra
Created: 05/01/2008
07:22 AM
07:22 AM
They might not have branded anyone with a hot fork, but from the looks of the OTR’s comment threads Courtney Holt is much better off far, far away from anyone associated with Phi Epsilon.
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As we reported earlier this week, 19-year-old Hofstra student Courtney Holt was “forced” to flee school after a group of “vengeful sorority girls” threatened to slit her throat. Holt claimed the cult, Phi Epsilon, verbally and physically harassed her and planned to brand her in the groin with a hot fork during their initiation ceremony.
It has now come to light that Holt’s claims are completely unfounded, and school officials state “the sorority was not responsible of any wrongdoing.”
Their name might be cleared, but that hasn’t stopped students, many whom attend Hofstra, from writing a spew of vile, malicious tirades against Holt in the comments accompanying the OTR post on the story.
“This girl looks like straight up trailor (sic) trash who is out for money,” a reader posted. “If this were my sorority we sure as hell wouldn't want her in it.”
“This girl is a freak and needs to be put on a leash,” another added.
The firestorm of outrage didn’t stop at angry students. Comments have poured in, often in support of Phi Epsilon.
“R-E-S-P-E-C-T! I heart Phi Ep!” one reader wrote. “No stupid, little white trash girl will ever pull them down. Keep your heads held high girls.”
“It's a good thing this piece of trash depledged. Who needs a crazy girl who obviously doesn't have her head on straight in such a respected organization. This girl has some serious issues. Karmas a bitch.”
In addition to being called “deranged,” “unstable,” and a “skank,” readers criticized Holt for only making it through five days of the pledge program.
“Supposedly she stopped pledging cause her mother was on drugs, so maybe she is trying to get some money for her mother's next fix,” a poster speculated. “She's just doing what any loyal white trash skank would do... I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree!”
Still, at least one girl appeared to take Holt’s side.
“Courtney Holt is one of my best friends,” a student claimed. “[During pledging] I barely talked to her. These girls completely took over her life. They all stressed respect, yet repeatedly hazed not only Courtney but the rest of the pledges… Courtney is one of the best people I know… She would never EVER go out of her way to hurt someone else.”
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Comments 
Anonymous says,
play nice? but then we wouldn't get a whole article featuring our comments.
Posted 05/01/2008 08:12 AM
Anonymous says,
If Phi Epsilon Sorority did all those harsh and hurtful things to their pledges, they wouldn't still be on campus. They would have been kicked off a long time ago. So doesn't that make you think twice about everything this Courtney Holt girl is saying? She is obviously spreading lies because she is now the joke of Hofstra.
Posted 05/01/2008 08:35 AM
Anonymous says,
If she felt the practices she experienced in her week of pledging were wrong or harsh that is her opinion and I respect that. However, telling lies and starting trouble because her claims were found untrue at Hofstra...well she should expect the harsh words of Phi Ep supporters to follow and she basically dug her own grave, hahahahahaha
Posted 05/01/2008 08:45 AM
Anonymous says,
My favorite part of this chick Courtney's ONLY supporter's comment is when she says that during pledging she barely talked to her. For 4 to 5 days (the amount of time she was pledging) you barely talked to her? Haha, how did you ever survive such separation??? Maybe you don't know your friend that well...Furthermore, I graduated from Hofstra some time ago but these rumors were around then too. I wish you girls all the luck and success in the future, and congratulations on your 70th anniversary!!!
Posted 05/01/2008 09:46 AM
Anonymous says,
Thats not true at all. Most of the Greek life on this campus hazes horribly. They don't get caught cause they are good at keeping it under wraps and the administration doesn't care. @ Anonymous:
Posted 05/01/2008 9:58 PM
Anonymous says,
Anonymous</a>: Dug her own grave?? That wouldn't be a reference to Phi Ep
s hell night, would it? You must be one of them, then. One of the hazers. They have been hazing pledges since the time they started that sorority. bunch of obnoxious, look a-likes. graduated many years ago and was on j-board when some other hazing stuff hit the fan. I am certain it is true.
s hell night, would it? You must be one of them, then. One of the hazers. They have been hazing pledges since the time they started that sorority. bunch of obnoxious, look a-likes. graduated many years ago and was on j-board when some other hazing stuff hit the fan. I am certain it is true.
Posted 05/03/2008 9:04 PM
Anonymous says,
ummmm this grave nonsense has got to stop, sitting here and reading some of the BS ppl say and write is not only OBNOXIOUS [bc of how incredibly UNTRUE it is] but STUPID.. if u get off from making up EXTREMELY false stories and spreading them to ur 'cool' friends, then by all means, thats ur pathetic life not mine.. but please, PLEASE have something to back u up on it, AT LEAST.. u make urselfs look like such idiots, no joke. so immature, pitiful, UNeducated and IGNORANT.. read a book, maybe you'll actually LEARN something..
Posted 05/04/2008 05:23 AM
Anonymous says,
Phi Ep is nothing but a group of no self-esteem, unclassy, wastes of space. The girls in the sorority are either tiny, jappy girls riding on their parents money or overweight cows who act as bodyguards to the puny trash who can't defend themselves but want to talk shit like they're tough It is 100% believeable that these antics go on because the cows they let in to their sorority hate their lives so much that they take out the fact that they're fat ugly beasts on whoever they feel they can scare. As a Hofstra graduate I can say I've witnessed their extreme lack of class and respect for other people, and also that Hofstra is known for placing a blind eye to the things the Greek system does to its pledges. I have friends in the greek system who have even said that this is no surprise to them. It's sad that people can't just make their own friends and instead inflict bodily harm and public humiliation upon themselves in order to find "sisterhood". So sad.
Posted 05/04/2008 12:39 PM
Anonymous says,
I'm pretty sure that being a graduate of Hofstra, you have no idea what present day phi ep is like. I'm also pretty sure the girl that hit courtney is 5'2 and 110 lbs. Give up. They don't deserve this.
Posted 05/04/2008 12:59 PM
Anonymous says,
When you join a sorority you are entering into a social group with a REPUTATION that they uphold. I graduated last June, don't tell me that I don't know what "present day" Phi Ep is. Half the Greek system is in their 6th year at the school. Get over yourself, the only people who don't believe these practices are sick are the ones who are brainwashed to believe it means something. Go see a psychiatrist.
Posted 05/04/2008 1:56 PM
Anonymous says,
www.newsday.com/news/local/ny-liholt0501,0,7131743.story
Posted 05/04/2008 2:10 PM
Anonymous says,
If you ask all the frat boys(specifically DSP) that have slept with all of the girls(because those girls have all gotten around) I can assure you that they will state openly that the "branding" is in fact true. I have also seen it myself on a few of those girls and it is truly sad that they would subject themselves to such physical harm. Also, yes the grave thing is true as I have to unfortunately admit that I loaned my friend my gloves for her to do it and had to listen to her tell me the entire story. It is disgusting. It is sick. This should honestly be stopped before someone seriously gets hurt...To answer why they have not been banned? why hofstra has done anything? The answer is simple: They are extremely good at keeping things a secret and hofstra does not care. This article and this event proves it
Posted 05/04/2008 2:13 PM
Anonymous says,
First of all, Courtney's mother has no drug problem; that was another lie the sorority spread to trash her credibility. Courtney has not lied about a single thing, and if anyone who was posting about her actually knew her they would know she does not care about receiving money out of this whole thing. Why should someone be paying $45,000 a year to be harassed simply for not wanting to pledge some pathetic sorority that brands their pledges and makes them eat live goldfish. If those girls had any class whatsoever the situation would have ended once she decided to depledge and all of these posts would not be necessary.
Posted 05/04/2008 3:06 PM
Anonymous says,
Team holt, keep contradicting eachother and making complete fools out of yourselves...see if we care. Girls please stop fueling this pathetic debate.
Posted 05/04/2008 3:17 PM
Anonymous says,
Awww how cute now that people are pointing out the fact that your own sorority members are the ones making you look bad you want to stop the commenting? Or did you actually find a Lawyer with a brain who told the rest of you uneducated pieces of trash to shut your mouths before all your dirty secrets aren't secrets anymore? You are all PATHETIC, DISGUSTING people. Maybe you finally got hit with the realization that NONE of you are tough, you're either 1 of 2 things: 1) Grossly overweight or 2)a scrawny bitch with a big ass mouth and a grossly overweight "sister" holding your hand. Did you realize that you won't have that in prison when you're sitting next to real criminals who don't give a shit whether you live or die at their hands? My only hope is that more people who have went through this joke of a "sisterhood" initiation come forward and expose you for the trash you are. You all think that you're so tough when you're at the bar in your herds, and you think its O.K. to do physical harm to whoever you choose, but we'll see when someone twice your size is using you as their punching bag. Either way, you'll get what's coming to you in life for the way you treat people. Try using college for something like, I don't know, getting an education? However, I highly doubt that'll happen since like I stated before, half the Greek system is comprised of 3x Super Seniors wasting their parents money because they'll never be anything but Bar-Rats. Your parents must be so proud!!! Now go back to eating your lettuce or your 5-layer chocolate cake you pathetic degenerates.
Posted 05/04/2008 5:25 PM
Anonymous says,
Phi Ep's alumni are all lawyers ... check your spelling retards. And I can tell you first hand and I was smoking weed with courtneys mother in the netherlands before she rushed. So thats not a rumor phi ep started....
Posted 05/05/2008 07:42 AM
Anonymous says,
This one is my favorite:
(from some retard who posted above)
Also, yes the grave thing is true as I have to unfortunately admit that I loaned my friend my gloves for her to do it and had to listen to her tell me the entire story.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That by far is the stupidest thing I have ever heard! You are either making this up or your friend is a pathological liar and is telling you complete nonsense.
I can take a lie detector test about this one. It is in fact 110% NOT TRUE.
Stop spreading ridiculous lies about a sorority you know nothing about.
(from some retard who posted above)
Also, yes the grave thing is true as I have to unfortunately admit that I loaned my friend my gloves for her to do it and had to listen to her tell me the entire story.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That by far is the stupidest thing I have ever heard! You are either making this up or your friend is a pathological liar and is telling you complete nonsense.
I can take a lie detector test about this one. It is in fact 110% NOT TRUE.
Stop spreading ridiculous lies about a sorority you know nothing about.
Posted 05/06/2008 07:12 AM
Anonymous says,
Is Phi Ep Jewish? Just curious, because all Jewish sororities have two things in common: big noses and a love for hazing.
Posted 05/06/2008 07:47 AM
Anonymous says,
Phi Ep is not a Jewish sorority. There may be some Jewish girls in it but that's pretty much it. The girls in Phi Ep DO NOT have big noses. I can name some other sororities on campus that do though.
Posted 05/06/2008 09:00 AM
Anonymous says,
Phi Ep makes their pledges pretend to milk a cow while reciting this poem : "The cow, she walks, she talks, she's full of chalk, the lactile fluid extracted from the bovine species is highly prilific to the n-th degree, mooooooooooooo"
i think their new bar shirts for tuesday night should be milk coming out of their nipples with the words "lactile fluid" since they adore cows so much.
happy drinking ladies..pretty sure you all are the ones with the drinking problem
i think their new bar shirts for tuesday night should be milk coming out of their nipples with the words "lactile fluid" since they adore cows so much.
happy drinking ladies..pretty sure you all are the ones with the drinking problem
Posted 05/06/2008 4:08 PM
Anonymous says,
^^ ha ha wow these phi ep girls are pathetic. I find it funny how now, that they know how stupid they look, they are starting to say how stupid the people coming to this site are and vowing not to comment anymore. Maybe they are seeing that people DON'T believe anything out of their dirty mouths and they're nervous people on campus might start to talk about them and make them feel the same way they made this girl courtney feel, aww how sad : (
Posted 05/06/2008 4:19 PM
Anonymous says,
courtney holt herself have cried hysterically to her friends about her abusive mother being a heroin addict and that she gets beaten all the time because her mother is a raging btch. no wonder her face looks so fuked up all the time.
Posted 05/10/2008 3:36 PM
Anonymous says,
phi ep your all dirty whores. i looked at all your pictures last nite and ur all losers who degrade your pledges so you can make your fat ugly selves feel better. how ****ing pathetic. and patricia lam your a ****ing stupid soy . i didnt know you had shoes in yah mouth cuz yahhh keep runnin it. go back to wherever ur from and eat anotha dog you weirdo
Posted 05/10/2008 4:28 PM
Anonymous says,
I am a Phi Ep alumni, and I am a lawyer. I am not fat, not Jewish, not a skinny bitch, but I do look good. Anyone who complains about the greek system has no clue or few friends. I think the Phi EP haters here may be both. Sounds as if one or two may not have gotten and invite to pledge - a little bitter?
Posted 05/12/2008 07:42 AM
Anonymous says,
it's so funny that the phi ep members and alumni think that all the people who don't like what they do are either loser or have been rejected by them, you all need to wake up because most of the people commenting against you are neither, they are people that just don't like when others think they are powerful enough to try to ruin a persons life, no one has that right and no one cares wether or not youre in a sosority or if you pretty not everyone in the world are low lifes like you, once you grow up you all will relize you need to judge people by their morals not their faces, do all even know what the word morals means because it doesn't seem like it from your obnoxious and rude comments
Posted 05/12/2008 3:40 PM
Anonymous says,
p.s - courtney has never been beaten, especially by her mother, and whatever friends you're talking about, you are full of crap because courtney stopped associating with anyone that had anything to do with this group of girls because she knew that group and everyone around them were bad news
Posted 05/12/2008 3:43 PM
Anonymous says,
since you guys all want to talk about drugs why don't you let people know what some of your mebers are like - a brand new member lindsay bosan does coke, as a matter of fact one of the first weekends she was at college she was so messed up sh fell asleep under a garbage truck and had to be carried back to her room by a stranger that found her, and how about two weeks ago when the same girl was so messed up on drugs and alcahol she couldn't get out of her bed and her sister had to call her boyfriend from home to come help- the same sister that is also part of the same sorority, maybe her "sisters" should have taken her to the hospital since they all love eachother so much, so much that they watched as one of their friends was sick in her bed for days
Posted 05/12/2008 3:58 PM
Anonymous says,
oh how about you all hear about another one of this sosority's new members - cory streef- whose boyfriend is in jail for years because he broke into a druggy's house to steal from them and got caught - then months later she let a group of boys who robbed another house come stay in her dorm room so they could hide from police - the things they accuse courtney of doing are the things they actually do themselves
Posted 05/12/2008 4:02 PM
Anonymous says,
honestly get over it, everyone knows that something weird goes on with them, and if the girl had the guts to say something than more power to her, get over your R-E-S-P-E-C-T and just admit that your just pissed she told you branding secret.
Posted 06/14/2008 7:01 PM
Anonymous says,
all i can is WOW! some of things coming out here are completely crazy. i understand hazing is a big deal, but what im not getting is how everyone is acting like a complete child on this thread. the only statements that dont sounds bitter or just plain retarded are those of alumin disproving the facts being thrown out there by people who dont know.
i as well am in an greek organization @ hofstra. we've all heard the stories about each other and you know what....NO ONE ****IN CARES...this was not a hazing incident being as the issue that provoked this happened @ a bar near the school. and weeks later she called the police. retarded.
also anyone out here stating that phi ep is a bunch of fat, jappy girls or whatever your saying...could you be nemore of a child. jesus ****in christ grow the **** up. i mean if you want people to pre judge you before even meeting you i mean keep doing what your doing, you sound like people who sit in their room watch movies by themselves and wonder what a true college experience is like.and dont go out into world and have fun.
and to whoever posted about what some of their sisters did before they pledged or their boyfriends did....do me a favor....just stop it....your a ****in loser in plain english. instead of sitting in your room listening to stories about things your friends friend heard...experience life.. you only go around once...people **** up but i guess your perfect....WAIT?!?! is JEsus posting on this board
greek life has a rich history across the country. no one seems to have a problem with a president joining a frat and riding the coattails of the people before him. you want to get pissed about something sit down and read about some of the people who are running fortune 500 companies and how they got their jobs instead of pissing and moaning about some girl who got into a fight at the bar...and realized she could be in the newspaper if she told someone.
i as well am in an greek organization @ hofstra. we've all heard the stories about each other and you know what....NO ONE ****IN CARES...this was not a hazing incident being as the issue that provoked this happened @ a bar near the school. and weeks later she called the police. retarded.
also anyone out here stating that phi ep is a bunch of fat, jappy girls or whatever your saying...could you be nemore of a child. jesus ****in christ grow the **** up. i mean if you want people to pre judge you before even meeting you i mean keep doing what your doing, you sound like people who sit in their room watch movies by themselves and wonder what a true college experience is like.and dont go out into world and have fun.
and to whoever posted about what some of their sisters did before they pledged or their boyfriends did....do me a favor....just stop it....your a ****in loser in plain english. instead of sitting in your room listening to stories about things your friends friend heard...experience life.. you only go around once...people **** up but i guess your perfect....WAIT?!?! is JEsus posting on this board
greek life has a rich history across the country. no one seems to have a problem with a president joining a frat and riding the coattails of the people before him. you want to get pissed about something sit down and read about some of the people who are running fortune 500 companies and how they got their jobs instead of pissing and moaning about some girl who got into a fight at the bar...and realized she could be in the newspaper if she told someone.
Posted 06/30/2008 11:44 PM
Anonymous says,
See the best part about all of this is that as stupid, immature, childish whatever you want to call thread, is you're still writing back and being bitter about what is being said, and seriously stop with the " i'm from a different organization", cause clearly no one would care enough to still be checking this if they were from a different organization.
Please don't tell people to go out and experience their lives when your sitting in your room commenting on this just like the "people who don't have lives", youre giving the rest of our greek community a bad name. So either be smart and pick better girls, or change whatever is going wrong, because the rest of the greek community shouldn't have to suffer because of you.
Just get over the issue and move on enough the defending yourself cause you're really starting to look guiillltttyyy
Please don't tell people to go out and experience their lives when your sitting in your room commenting on this just like the "people who don't have lives", youre giving the rest of our greek community a bad name. So either be smart and pick better girls, or change whatever is going wrong, because the rest of the greek community shouldn't have to suffer because of you.
Just get over the issue and move on enough the defending yourself cause you're really starting to look guiillltttyyy
Posted 07/20/2008 03:49 AM
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