Nas Vs. Fox News

According to 620,000 petitioners, Fox News intentionally defames Barack Obama with racist "slip-ups." Legendary hip hop artist Nas agrees, and he's now working to reform the allegedly bias news corp.

 

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Finally, college students have someone to lead their fight against Fox News. Rapper Nas has single-handedly waged war against Fox News and “Papa Bear O’Reilly.” Last week, Nas started up a petition against Fox News and presented the petition of over 620,000 signatures to the station in New York City this morning. Although, his efforts, along with those of Color of Change and Move On, were admirable, they have proved to be useless as Fox News has refused to accept the petition.

 

Nas' main concern about Fox News is that the network is ruthlessly shaming Barack and Michelle Obama with a string of racist slip-ups. College students all over the country are supporting Obama and will not submit to Fox's ignorant bias. The proof is in the college-network pudding. Over a million Facebook users have "friended" Barack Obama and the MtvU has reported on the issue calling the petition "activism" and scoffing at Fox News' supporters.

 

Nas also made an appearance on The Colbert Report to discuss the petition and perform "Sly Fox", a song lovingly dedicated to his favorite news channel. To college students, Stephen Colbert is a demi-god of sorts - many students looking to him for their news. So kudos to Nas for chatting with Colbert, he just gained about a gazillion more petition signers!

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Comments

Anonymous says,
Hey I was there, and I got some great videos.
check hiptics.com
Posted 07/24/2008 2:38 PM
Anonymous says,
I wonder if they know what Obama supports
Posted 07/24/2008 2:59 PM
Anonymous says,
And to think, their parents believe they were spedning hard earned money for their kids to get an education, not to listen to Rap Music. So far FOX News is the only channel that I have seenthat provides both sides of the issues continuously.

Even Hillary went on Fox and did a very good job with Bill O'Reilly.
Posted 07/24/2008 3:08 PM
Anonymous says,
"So far FOX News is the only channel that I have seen that provides both sides of the issues continuously."

HAHA... that was the funniest thing I've heard all day!

Thanks!
Posted 07/24/2008 3:14 PM
Anonymous says,
Anonymous is the same poster who wants to bet 100$$
Posted 07/24/2008 3:21 PM
Anonymous says,
Liars always hate it when the truth is proven beyond a doubt. Keep up the good work FOX!!!
Posted 07/24/2008 3:22 PM
Anonymous says,
Which is why Fox News refused to accept the petition. Talk about refusing to accept the truth...
Posted 07/24/2008 3:32 PM
Anonymous says,
Flush News, makes ya feel real good but what a hangover the next morning.
Posted 07/24/2008 3:33 PM
Anonymous says,
Fox News regularly runs clips or repeats verbatim video and press releases from this White House. This is not journalism. It is propaganda, full stop. So no surprise that they now repeat unquestioningly the propaganda from the RNC.

What Nas should do, is take his petitioners to Fox News' media buyers. Anyone that advertises on Fox News will see 1M+ people boycott the advertised product. That will shake them up. The only thing Fox News and papa bear love more than bashing liberals is collecting their fat paychecks...
Posted 07/24/2008 3:35 PM
Anonymous says,
Wow.Just...Wow.

Don't want to get our news from such an obviouly biased source like FOX. So we should listen to Nas instead?

Tools.
Posted 07/24/2008 3:36 PM
Anonymous says,
@ Anonymous: Are you insane? have you ever watched Bill O'Reilly? If the interviewee doesn't say what O'Reilly wants to hear he just starts cutting them off and yelling. There are hundreds of examples on youtube. O'Reilly doesn't believe in any communication, all he believes in in his own opinion everyone that disagree with him is a lunatic, or supports terror. O'reilly is an ignorant racist. O'Reilly represents what America is NOT. He represents all that is wrong with this country, so does FAUX news.
Posted 07/24/2008 3:36 PM
Anonymous says,
hahaha oh my god this is such a joke. this is probably an online petition filled with dumbasses with blind emotional rage who have never even watched fox news. funny how people criticize fox for being conservative but no one ever says shit about msnbc for leaning to the left. msnbc is more liberal than fox is conservative. but people see fox news being actually OBJECTIVE and not immediately bashing the bush administration and they fabricate some racism charges. what a pathetic joke
Posted 07/24/2008 3:38 PM
Anonymous says,
We should get our news from a variety of sources, since they are each biased in some way...Fox worse than most. I'm not one of the petitioners and could care less what Nas says, but I'd love to see the 'war' on x-mas stunt that O'Reilly pulled come back to bite him in the behind.
Posted 07/24/2008 3:38 PM
Anonymous says,
Tools. The lot of you!
Posted 07/24/2008 3:39 PM
Anonymous says,
I would refer all of you to a recent Hoover Institute (right wing think tank at Stanford) study that counted partisan references on the various news outlets. What they found was interesting. Fox was farther to the left than CNN, ABC, NBC or CBS were to the left, with MSNBC leaning RIGHT not left. Only PBS was in the middle and reflective of the very center of the US politically. Unless you use stats as they did, you are really talking nonsense on this issue...
Posted 07/24/2008 3:40 PM
Anonymous says,
Keith O. is GOD
Posted 07/24/2008 3:40 PM
Anonymous says,
@ Anonymous: You ignorant lefties, listening to Nas and Steven Colbert for your news. Truly a sad state of affairs in this country. You are blinded by your mindless socialism. Move to France. You would be much happier there. Oh wait, they just abolished their wonderful "35 hour" work week because the socialist economic theories are a joke.
Posted 07/24/2008 3:42 PM
Anonymous says,
Fox is to the left like the Catholic Church doesn't abuse little boys
Posted 07/24/2008 3:43 PM
Anonymous says,
the people who are aiming to boycott fox would not buy those products anyway. Fox targets intelligent people, not people who take their political directions for a hip-hop artist.
Posted 07/24/2008 3:43 PM
Anonymous says,
I see the ognorant Fox watchers are now starting to blog@ Anonymous:
Posted 07/24/2008 3:45 PM
Anonymous says,
Oreilly is NOT a news anchor. he is a commentator. like Chris Matthews or Lou Dobbs. They are not hard news guys.
Keith O doesn;t could becuase he is an idiot.
Posted 07/24/2008 3:45 PM
Anonymous says,
What is socialist about wanting to be free from government intrusions into my civil liberties or demanding that gays get married and enjoy the same rights as straight people? And what is conservative about fighting foreign wars to make the whole world free or promoting corporate welfare to bail out companies that took bad risks and are getting washed out by the market? Fox News bashes gays seeking freedom, civil rights advocates defending the Constitution, foreign policy realists who want to protect our troops by bringing them home, and George Soros even though he is the ultimate capitalist... I think you defenders of Fox News are ignorant about just how socialist the network's critics are...
Posted 07/24/2008 3:46 PM
Anonymous says,
Yes, they are all biased. All news is biased! One leans one way, the other leans the opposite. Please understand this people. As soon as we can accept that they're two sides then we can get passed the bickering, name calling, petitions which is a joke, if a bunch of old people got together and call CNN on its agism then would it make news? No it wouldn't! Get your news from many sources, and don't trust anyone as everyone has alterior motives.
Posted 07/24/2008 3:46 PM
Anonymous says,
WORST STATION "IN THE WORLD", FLUSH News

I just love Kieth O. Yeah
Posted 07/24/2008 3:47 PM
Anonymous says,
Fox targets conservatives, but Proctor & Gamble and Ford target Americans. The latter will price down ads if they lose 1m viewers, whether you think those viewers are left, right, center or stupid. You must also not be watching Fox ads, because you are pretty ignorant yourself!
Posted 07/24/2008 3:48 PM
Anonymous says,
Obama stands for everything that is wrong with this country.
Why in the world would you want larger government, pay more taxes, let the "poor" who make 60k a year receive aid from the government, create a nonworking national healthcare plan (if you dont believe me research what Canada uses), and back down from the largest threat against the US? The only people spreading FAUX news are CNN, liberal rappers, and their nut job supporters. The reason O'Reilly tears into the people he interviews is because they do not have an answer, try and avoid the answer, or give some random BS answer. Wake Up People.
Posted 07/24/2008 3:48 PM
Anonymous says,
The left wing stations just happen to be RIGHT.


WORST STATION "IN THE WORLD", FLUSH News
Posted 07/24/2008 3:49 PM
Anonymous says,
O'Reilly scores highest of all news pundits in terms of interruptions of guests on air. This is a fact that you can look up. It has nothing to do with the stupidity of his guests, but the lack of civility on his program.

Obama at once stands for nothing and stands for everything bad, according to the same republican critics. Please, explain to me how this is even possible...
Posted 07/24/2008 3:50 PM
Anonymous says,
If not for Fox News, the truth would not have a chance, as it is drowned out by the drive-by move-on media.
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on". Great quote from Sir
Winston Churchill is so to the point.
Posted 07/24/2008 3:51 PM
Anonymous says,
So, did any of you actually watch FOX, or are you just parroting what someone else told you to think?
Posted 07/24/2008 3:51 PM
Anonymous says,
Flush News panders to the LOWEST common denominator in our country. No wonder its Number 1 for Dumb Asses and red necks.

Go Kieth O. Go
Posted 07/24/2008 3:54 PM
Anonymous says,
Fox has spoken to specific issues that clearly demonstarte that Obama is not qualified for the most powerful elected office in the world. Just as most citizens in the USA believe that the country is a democracy, they fail to appreciate that the United States of America is in reality, a Republic. Fox has looked at the facts that surround Obama and and found him wanting. And just because he is believed to be a "rock star" by liberals and young voters that is no recommendation or qualification to serve as the President of the United States.

To accept a candidate based soley on race as most liberas radicals and democrates do in Jerry Obama's case, is a empty and misdirected as believing in a single and soley superior race. Liberals that they demonstrate their enlightened superior nature by falling in love demonstrates that they are more human and of more value than those that do not. So the Global warming conscripts, like the former members of the flat earth society can not rationally lobby for Obama, they do it cause its all about feeling good. Those that are head and shoulders in love with Obama have failed to listen to the words of a man that worships with radicals, writes introductions to books written by terrorist bomers and panders and does business with convicted criminals. And they never will, because facts can inhibit feelings. It is clear that a vote for Obama is a vote for a feeling not the actions of someone that has his or her good judgement and common sense in check.
Posted 07/24/2008 3:54 PM
Anonymous says,
"...or are you just parroting what someone else told you to think?"

Gee. Sounds like the thought process of the people who signed this "petition."
Posted 07/24/2008 3:55 PM
Anonymous says,
Wow, you just defended George Soros. Need I remind you he is the bankroll for MoveOn.org? Enough said. You nutty lefties would love it if Fox News spewed the same crap that all the other "news" organizations puke all over the airwaves every day. Want to move quickly to socialism, vote Democrat. Want to slow it down a little, vote Republican. Either way we are screwed and its all because young people in this country cant think for themselves so they listen to Steven Colbert and John Stewart. Sad.
Posted 07/24/2008 3:55 PM
Anonymous says,
The Fox News loving, free market champions on this site ought to explain how 8 years of laissez faire government has failed to benefit the well being of most Americans. We spend double the world average on health care but are 29th in mortality/longevity rates, and the only one in the top 30 with a meaningful % of people without coverage at all. This is a free market system and we underperform more socialist programs in Europe and Asia--using real stats, show me why this is good and then I'll believe Obama is bad for America. This free market/MBA president has created a bigger deficit and debt position than all prior presidents, excluding the Iraq War and war on terror, so explain to me why I should believe that Obama is bad for America. For the amount of money we spent on Iraq, we could have paid every person in Afghanistan $20,000 to find and kill Osama bin Laden and his accomplices, but instead we invade a country without connection to 9/11 or even WMDs and continue to justify a hawkish policy when the rest of the world fears us more than the terrorists, so tell me why Obama is bad for America...
Posted 07/24/2008 3:56 PM
Anonymous says,
What a crappy one sided NYU blog written by a feminist separatist!! How cool!!! Yay, like lol, So "kudos" to all of you who watch opinion talk shows and make them your religion!!! whooohoooo! Go Nas, he is such the role model!! We are proud to be in America where we can openly express our lack of knowledge of the freedom of speech and pretend to be 'up on' politics now that we took poly sci classes in school!!! Yay college!! rotfl!!! :) :( :0
Posted 07/24/2008 3:59 PM
Anonymous says,
Why don't you read Soros before you criticize him. Just because he contributes to MoveOn.org does not mean that he is incorrect in his assessments of the Bush Administration's foreign policy or the lack of a critical media in the US. You have to actually address his arguments, not engage in guilt by association. Otherwise, you look like a moron.
Posted 07/24/2008 3:59 PM
Anonymous says,
Yay Obama! I'd take a young stallion over a broken old horse any day.
Posted 07/24/2008 4:00 PM
Anonymous says,
I'm glad O'Reilly cuts off his guests. I wish all commentators would.

There's nothing more annoying then asking a politician how they would fix, say, education, and getting a 5 minute stream of soundbytes that don't answer a single thing.

They should fit politicians with BS detecting shock collars if that's what it would take to get them to actually say something intelligent.
Posted 07/24/2008 4:01 PM
Anonymous says,
@ Anonymous: @ Anonymous: "Pay more taxes" with Obama??? Inflation is the hidden tax that repugs impose on all wage earners. The higher fuel cost is also a 'lil repug "treat" that "greenies" are OK with though. Most Repugs don't even realize they pay the same taxes as Europe -- but only get bombs instead of health care. Most Repugs won't know they've been "had" until they try to retire.
Posted 07/24/2008 4:01 PM
Anonymous says,
Ah yes the socialized medicine argument. All things aside, can you name one US government program that functions efficiently and provides better service/goods than the free market? Just lookin for one....
Posted 07/24/2008 4:02 PM
Anonymous says,
Hey DA,
You also forgot to mention that most of the people in your percentage without health care CHOSE not to be covered or they are illegal and are not able to enroll and so on. Those percentages were proven to be BS. THE ANSWER IS NOT NATIONAL HEALTHCARE, but privatizing the health care industry. But once again, all of you idiot democrats just go along with everyone else's ideas instead of thinking for yourself.
Posted 07/24/2008 4:02 PM
Anonymous says,
Hey 3:54, Fox News isn't supposed to speak to issues but report the facts...all of them...in a non-partisan way. They do not do this, nor do any of the other major news networks. They engage in selective self-censorship to appeal to 1) the political leanings of their viewers, to maximize ratings and ad revenue; 2) the government, to ensure that they retain access to generate the biased news and other entertainment that keeps their viewers watching them for ratings and ad value; and 3) their advertisers, who ultimately pay the bills. If you do not understand this dynamic, then you are really naive and are the perfect couch potato for Fox or any other news network.
Posted 07/24/2008 4:03 PM
Anonymous says,
"Yay Obama! I'd take a young stallion over a broken old horse any day. " --- This is what is wrong with the world today.
Posted 07/24/2008 4:04 PM
Anonymous says,
Hey guys. Dont try to confuse the Flush News watchers with the truth, their mind is already made up. FOX gives them what they need every day. Like a little child on the titi. LOL
Posted 07/24/2008 4:05 PM
Anonymous says,
yes we have all watched fox news it is garbage. rupert murdoch created it to make a conservative tabloid news channel to pander to the "talk"radio crowd.

To anyone who watches fox news, do yourself and your country a solid; turn off the TV and go read a book.
Posted 07/24/2008 4:06 PM
Anonymous says,
Come on. Look at the photo above. How can you honestly say this guy knows anything about politics??? He is no better than Kanye West and the outburst against Bush on Katrina.
Posted 07/24/2008 4:06 PM
Anonymous says,
@ Anonymous:<bold>Ah yes the socialized medicine argument. All things aside, can you name one US government program that functions efficiently and provides better service/goods than the free market? Just lookin for one.... " </bold>...uhh the interstate highway system...
Posted 07/24/2008 4:07 PM
Anonymous says,
yeah read a book like mien kampf or something... you bunch of brainwashed republicans.. ha ha ha.. im soo smart!!
Posted 07/24/2008 4:08 PM
Anonymous says,
Hey 4:02, what about the government bailout of the housing lenders, which includes more than just Freddie and Fannie but also Bear Stearns, IndyMac and (probably) a lot more to come? This is a classic case of a free market going bad because the incentives in the market created a bubble and now the regulators and government must step in to clean up the mess... The problem with free market folks is they selectively cite the data on efficiency but ignore the blow-ups that occur every 5-10 years. Kind of like the hedge funds that only cite 3 year numbers and throw out the bad records but only publish the good ones. Also, I would ask you why only efficiency matters. Maybe broader home ownership has other benefits not captured by your narrow measure. Maybe it's efficient to have Bear just go under, but when the entire credit market craps out and this recession becomes a depression, maybe that ain't so good even if that is the most efficient cleansing mechanism. Maybe you should do more than repeat the economic theory verbatim (I've read those books too) and actually join the real world...
Posted 07/24/2008 4:08 PM
Anonymous says,
Why don't we just sensor all of our news channels like China?!?!? Oh wait, CNN already tells their audience what they should believe. The evidence is in the posts above.
Posted 07/24/2008 4:09 PM
Anonymous says,
Statements by the FOX/Bush-Cheney/Neo-Con Republican fans state the obvious of what the majority in this country now see. They are in the minority and out of touch. Of course they can't and won't see the obvious. They are fearful and not aware. They have "drunk the kool-aide"...a term these folks so "lovingly" gave to all those who "saw the light" and disagreed with them. To those who truly see...think forward...that means give those FOX types no attention. They are lashing out in despiration. That's all they have. Did you know that in Nazi Germany, in the 1940's, when the "gig" was up for Hitler and his "friends" for all the world to see, 25% (give or take a few points) of the German populace STILL supported the Nazi party.
Posted 07/24/2008 4:10 PM
Anonymous says,
4:09 is a moron. CNN and Fox are the same. And people in China get around the government censorship and know more than Americans. Students in China answer correctly the signing date of the Declaration of Independence, but I doubt most on this site know when China was first unified.
Posted 07/24/2008 4:11 PM
Anonymous says,
Fox is BS. i watch it just to get outraged.
Posted 07/24/2008 4:11 PM
Anonymous says,
I never want to see Flush News go down. You could lose track of what ALL the wackos are thinking.

Go Flush Go
Go Billo Go
Go Rush Go
Posted 07/24/2008 4:11 PM
Anonymous says,
Hey isn't 25% where Bush's approval rating is right now? I guess that vote is safe as long as he has a pulse...
Posted 07/24/2008 4:12 PM
Anonymous says,
Rush isn't on fixed news
Posted 07/24/2008 4:12 PM
Anonymous says,
No, Rush is on drugs...er, I mean, prescription pain killers.
Posted 07/24/2008 4:13 PM
Anonymous says,
Bush is stupid, literally. Can't wait to have someone (i.e., Big O) that can think and reason, that has sound judgment.
Posted 07/24/2008 4:14 PM
Anonymous says,
Rush is not not, but boy would that be GREAT,,

Billo, Rush, Hitler, ooops, sorry, hes dead, Hitler that is.
Posted 07/24/2008 4:15 PM
Anonymous says,
Of course! It is always somebody else at fault. I didnt get into a home loan that I couldnt afford and lie about my stated income. And that is what the free market does....it goes up and down. Novel concept.
Posted 07/24/2008 4:16 PM
Anonymous says,
@ Anonymous:

This is a first. No way you heard this on FLUSH.
Posted 07/24/2008 4:18 PM
Anonymous says,
4:16, the free market allocates resources, usually better than any other system. But not always. That is the point. You asked for an example of when it didn't. I gave you one. Right now. In the housing market. Buy a paper and read about it. No need to go past page one. The government intervention is save capitalism from itself. No self-respecting economist believes that the intervention was unnecessary to the very survival of credit markets, and the spreads before and after the Fed/Treasury actions proved it. Again, stop building the shrine to Adam Smith and Friedrich Hayek and join the real world...
Posted 07/24/2008 4:21 PM
Anonymous says,
Oh BOO HOO. Flush News is being picked on by the mean old liberal press, the boogie man, and Big foot.......PLEASE

WORST STATION "IN THE WORLD", FLUSH News
Posted 07/24/2008 4:24 PM
Anonymous says,
I'm glad I'm not the only one who watches FOX just to keep in touch with what the "whackos" are doing. If their (FOX) media dogma was not dangerous to democracy and the financial life of our nation I would consider FOX viewers as irrelevant and pathetic...well...I still consider them pathetic.
Posted 07/24/2008 4:25 PM
Anonymous says,
Ted Koppel used to do that all of the time, he wrote in his autobiography, and he listened to Rush as well. It would have been good if moderates in Nazi Germany had paid more attention to the extreme right wing nonsense before it took real power. So I encourage everyone to listen, think and then push back hard on the idiotic arguments on Fox. In my experience, conservatives wither when confronted with real facts and solid logic. Not on air, but privately, they back down. It's all you can hope for.
Posted 07/24/2008 4:28 PM
Anonymous says,
Flush News is like watching One flew over the cuckoo's nest. It painful to watch but at least they are contained.
Posted 07/24/2008 4:29 PM
Anonymous says,
Lets build a shrine of Karl Marx instead.
Posted 07/24/2008 4:32 PM
Anonymous says,
Did you mean Karl Rove???
Posted 07/24/2008 4:33 PM
Anonymous says,
I hope you are not referring the NYT, but I wouldnt be surprised.
Posted 07/24/2008 4:37 PM
Anonymous says,
Isn't it "funny"...and sick that Reagan probably has a higher approval rating than Bush today...and Reagan doesn't even have a pulse. "What would Reagan do?"
Posted 07/24/2008 4:39 PM
Anonymous says,
4:32, Love how that conservative mind works: if not X, then -X. All or nothing. Never anything in between. If you are not with us you are with the terrorists, if you are not for the war you are against our troops, etc. Bush wasn't kidding when he said that he didn't do subtle...and he was speaking for all conservatives, evidently.
Posted 07/24/2008 4:41 PM
Anonymous says,
4:41, how true, how true. Neo cons have no reasoning or logical skills, it is black or white, no "fuzzy" logic.
Posted 07/24/2008 4:46 PM
Anonymous says,
I just think it is funny that college students are looking to COMEDY CENTRAL for their education in current events and politcal theory!
Posted 07/24/2008 4:52 PM
Anonymous says,
I just think it is funny that college students are looking to COMEDY CENTRAL for their education in current events and politcal theory!
Posted 07/24/2008 4:52 PM
Anonymous says,
What is the alternative? Honestly, Colbert and Stewart are more insightful than the highest paid pundits on the major networks or other cable channels. Sure they lean left, but they are more circumspect and balanced than other liberal commentators and way better than the think-we-know-it-all conservatives.
Posted 07/24/2008 4:53 PM
Anonymous says,
I think the main problem is that people have forgotten what it means to be American. It's easy to sit back and point out the problems (<-liberals), the hard part is actually doing something to create the answer. Since the Demo's have taken over the majority in the Senate, our nation has done nothing to resolve housing, education, immigration, gas/economic crises that affect all American's daily life. Just a bunch of talk and whining. Yet the person at the pennacle, GW, gets blamed for it all. He's definetely not the brightest bulb in the box, but we sure haven't been attacked in 7 years.
Posted 07/24/2008 4:55 PM
Anonymous says,
I am reminded about Ann Coulter's book, "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder". (I may have mistaken the title, but you get the drift). This brand of Republicans seems to falsely attach to others the conditions they personally own.
Posted 07/24/2008 4:56 PM
Anonymous says,
1. don't forget we WERE attacked with GW in office.
2. although there are more dems in congress now, still not enough to get anything done, the repubs block it. For instance, go to google news, 2nd article right side...case in point!
Posted 07/24/2008 4:58 PM
Anonymous says,
What is the alternative? Oh I don't know, maybe brush up on the Constitution, I hear there is this book that's kind of a big deal called, "The Federalist" - We could study US and World History from a variety of sources, learn to navigate and interpret the legislature found at our Senate and Congress websites, maybe investigate a little more into the news being pummeled into our eardrums by going to thier sources and searching for credibility- NO NO BUT YOU'RE RIGHT --- why don't we continue to plop down in our sofas and mindlessly watch Colbert and Stewart, or Keith or Bill, or Glenn or Anderson, Heck why not throw in Beavis and Butthead, or Nas and Rev. J.J --- "my bad"
Posted 07/24/2008 5:04 PM
Anonymous says,
1. It was the lack of involvement and intelligence in the Middle East the previous 8 years that allowed the preparation, finances, mastermining of that horrible plan to take place.
2. Do you read? 70 million barrels of oil is like flicking snot out of your nose. It would do nothing for our pocket books. Sell it and lift the ban on off-shore drilling then that would generate a downturn in the price of oil. The Saudi's, Columbian's would be besides themselves saying, 'ohh no, they are making there own oil, we must sell it to them cheaper.' Supply and demand baby.
Posted 07/24/2008 5:05 PM
Anonymous says,
5:04, hey dude. I agree with you. I actually went to law school and read the Constitution and all the major Supreme Court cases regarding it. I also have studied the Federalist. I try to rely upon intelligent analysis where I can find it, which is not on cable television. I'm just saying, if you want to relax in front of the tube and poison your mind less, then watch Colbert and Stewart since they are WAY BETTER than other television news.
Posted 07/24/2008 5:10 PM
Anonymous says,
1. i think repub congress spent to much time witch hunting clinton, remember the repubs controlled congress during clintons second term

2. don't you read! drilling won't do much either. in fact, lifting the ban only allows exploration, not that there is already known spots to drill. and besides, the dems try to pass a bill recently to allow drilling in the ALREADY designated acreage.
Posted 07/24/2008 5:10 PM
Anonymous says,
4:55, why is being American defined as believing that only Republicans do positive things for America? Do you really think that the GOP's politicians care more about you or me or the country than the Democrats? And why does Bush get credit for no attack in 7 years? This seems dumb, especially when: a) the last one occurred on his watch after a memo warning him about it was published, b) the frequency of major attacks in the US appears to be an 8+ year schedule (just look at the time between WTC bombing and 9/11), and c) the cure could be worse than the disease (more US dead in Iraq than killed in 9/11 for no deterring benefits--since we attacked a country not involved in 9/11). Bill Clinton should get more credit than Bush, since the WTC didn't fall down during the terrorist attack occuring on his watch... This is such muddled logic that historians will be laughing at us for centuries...
Posted 07/24/2008 5:15 PM
Anonymous says,
Those who refuse to use numbers are doomed to talk nonsense. The US consumes 20M barrels per day and produces about 5M. No one believes that drilling where the government currently disallows will double production, much less quadruple it. So where do we replace the 15M we now import, largely from politically unseemly places. Please, please, please tell me again why the incessant arguments heard from McCain/Coulter/Fox/Rush/GOP talking heads makes any of this math change. I really want to be a true American again. Help me lose my need for arguments to make sense and the numbers to foot!
Posted 07/24/2008 5:19 PM
Anonymous says,
5:10, hey, 'brah'. Judging by the content of oh 99% of these pointless posts - these 'intellectuals' here do indeed look to cable television for their primary source of news and politcal theory - WHY ARE WE STILL HERE POSTING ON THIS REDICULOUS STRETCH OF AN ARTICLE. I don't know if the majority of this population would understand that by watching cable television you are indeed 'poisoning' your mind, but a true concept indeed my friend.
Posted 07/24/2008 5:21 PM
Anonymous says,
"Since the Demo's have taken over the majority in the Senate..."

Its funny that most Democrats leave that part out and try and blame everything on Bush.
Posted 07/24/2008 5:22 PM
Anonymous says,
1. Congress, when they actually meet, mainly addresses mainland issues. Article Two of the Constitution establishes the president as commander-in-chief of the armed forces and enumerates powers specifically granted to the president. Which means he should be directly responsible for the lack of intelligence and involvement in the ME not the congress.
2. Hypothetically, if the United States was able to produce its entire demand of 21 million barrels per day without resorting to foreign imports, existing US reserves would last only three years at the current rate of consumption. <- Why not explore?
Posted 07/24/2008 5:25 PM
Anonymous says,
5:15: It blows me away there are so many of you in our country that feel this way. It is truly amazing that we grew up in the same US and we think so differently. The reasoning you apply to the WTC events is SCARY. And I bet you have a college education. And for 5:10, good God man...drilling in already designated acreage! You have got to be joking. The Dems proposed lifted a drilling ban on existing leases where the oil companies already know there is no oil. Yippee! Let's go green! Who cares what it costs! Real solution: drill everywhere we can at home. Stop giving $700B a year to guys that dont like us. Build nuclear as fast as we can. Then you can plug your damn Prius into your house.
Posted 07/24/2008 5:26 PM
Anonymous says,
"since we attacked a country not involved in 9/11"
Your an idiot. We attacked Afghanistan which was directly related to 9/11. Iraq was not an immediate attack, and there was plenty of evidence (other than WMD) to lead us into Iraq. If Clinton would have done his job, Bush would not have had to go after Saddam.
Posted 07/24/2008 5:29 PM
Anonymous says,
O'Reilly sees himself as looking out for you. Sometimes he gets it right but most times he gets it wrong. For example the war in Iraq. All you need do is listen to his radio show, he frequently corrects himself and blames the Fox News researchers for getting it wrong. I love it when a really smart caller calls him and gets him to contradict himself. He doesn't even know he's contradicting himself. And I worry there are far too many people that do not have differing opinions. Too many followers of media elites.
Posted 07/24/2008 5:30 PM
Anonymous says,
Too many followers of media elites?? That is exactly what this article is about.
Posted 07/24/2008 5:32 PM
Anonymous says,
I never defined being American as believing in the repubs, in fact, I can't stand this two party dictatorship. But it seriously is picking the lesser of the two evils. We are left with a POS on a stick and a POS between two pieces or bread. Some pick the sandwich, some pick the popsicle.
Posted 07/24/2008 5:33 PM
Anonymous says,
5:29, for the record, please confirm that Iraq was involved in 9/11. I was not referring to Afghanistan when I was speaking of targets not involved in that unspeakable terrorist act, and you know it. So, again, since I am an idiot, please tell me what the "plenty of evidence" is and why it is worth it, made us safer, etc. When you use epithets rather than numbers, supporting evidence, and the like, you can say anything you want...and therefore say nothing useful at all.
Posted 07/24/2008 5:36 PM
Anonymous says,
5:26, what logic applied to WTC do you not understand? Tell you what, I'll take credit for preventing the extermination of the human race by aliens that I single-handedly foiled...repeatedly. In the absence of any proof, I would hope that my accomplishment, like the President's would be viewed with skepticism.

About the drilling, go ahead and drill everywhere in the US, but don't expect it to lower oil prices much nor reduce our dependence on foreign production AT ALL.
Posted 07/24/2008 5:40 PM
Anonymous says,
5:26, THE FACT is the oil companies don't know whether there is, or is not oil one the already leased land, some are being explored, but not all of that land. That is a fact, not conjecture.
Posted 07/24/2008 5:46 PM
Anonymous says,
For those of us with time in the saddle, we've been saving energy for over thirty years and we still pay more. Finding more oil, whether it be on our coast or ANWAR, we will still pay more. Thats the nature of the beast we use. The only way is individual sustain -abitity however you achieve it. And do it so that corporate Amercia can't steal it and marketed back to you at a higher price. Case closed!
Posted 07/24/2008 5:47 PM
riceevans says,
Remember: there is no truth but interpretation. That is why any mainstream (or under-the-radar) news media should not be given carte blanche to decree their version of the truth and for viewers to blindly accept their correctness.

The entire purpose of democracy is for the people to govern. Not the television.
Posted 07/24/2008 5:54 PM
Anonymous says,
Saving energy for thirty years? By this do you mean not building any new gas refineries or nuke plants? If we get our oil from home and not a cartel we will still pay more? Hmmmm
Posted 07/24/2008 6:14 PM
Anonymous says,
Hey 6:14: For globally-traded or even regionally-traded commodities, you might pay more even if they are domestically sourced. Let's say the US starts adding another 15M barrels of oil (one such commodity) per day to world supply, but the Chinese and Indians start demanding an additional 30M over the same period, then prices will go up for everyone, including the now-self-sufficient Americans. Natural gas, which is more of a regional market, would have less of a price increase but would likely have one as well.
Posted 07/24/2008 6:59 PM
Anonymous says,
Okay Everybody knows Fox News is Pro-Bush! **** them
Posted 07/24/2008 11:13 PM
Anonymous says,
@ Anonymous: People who think fox is 'Pro-Bush' really need to lay down the koolaid.
Posted 07/25/2008 12:03 AM
Anonymous says,
@ Anonymous: the word is ulterior not alterior
Posted 07/25/2008 12:32 AM
Anonymous says,
5:36, how about you look up Collin Powell's presentation he gave to congress which outlined everything. Or do I need to hold your hand through all of the obvious evidence?

And second, Iraq harbors terrorists which are still largely in the North Eastern part of Iraq, which borders Iran, who supplies these terrorists with guns and money.
So why are you sticking up for countries that dedicate their lives to destroying ours?
Posted 07/25/2008 10:25 AM
Anonymous says,
6:59: What if we decided that instead of importing 15M barrels per day, we drill wherever we need to, produce the oil here, and consume it. Yes, world demand continues to rise, but a major factor in the price is the supply regulation by OPEC. At lease we could get out from under their thumb.
Posted 07/25/2008 12:20 PM
marnr67 says,
um, 10:25am.... you realize Colin Powell (not Collin) based all his evidence on an iRaqi contact named "Curveball" who turned out to be entirely full of shit... right? The whole no-WMDs-in-Iraq is not a whole liberal media conspiracy. And there were no terrorists in Iraq before we invaded (so hence they weren't really harboring terrorists if there were non eot harbor). Just incase you need my resources (seeing as you pulled information out of your ass, cough cough Ann Coulter)... here are mine:

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/popup?id=2948620

http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0406/p99s01-duts.html

and here's a great article saying how Iraq DID harbor terrorists... but only after we invaded.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7460-2005Jan13.html

i loooove this quote: "the council's report suggests the conflict has also helped terrorists by creating a haven for them in the chaos of war." And that's from a conservative publication! Not even MSNBC could come up with shit this good... oh wait that's because it's the truth.
Posted 07/25/2008 1:48 PM
marnr67 says,
excuse the typo: * if there were none to harbor
Posted 07/25/2008 1:49 PM
Anonymous says,
And there were no terrorists in Iraq before we invaded. Um, como se dice Saddam Hussein? The wool is thick young Jedi.
Posted 07/25/2008 2:04 PM
Anonymous says,
doesn't matter if there where terrorist, or WMD in Iraq. Bush lied about Iraq being a iminate threat. I was in the first Gulf war. And any country we could run through in 72 hrs will never be a threat to the US.
Posted 07/25/2008 3:08 PM
Anonymous says,
Last time I checked, we didnt run through Iraq in 72 hours.
Posted 07/25/2008 3:24 PM
Anonymous says,
"And there were no terrorists in Iraq before we invaded"

Now that was pulled straight out of YOUR a$$.
And pull a dictionary, smart one. Suggestion != Proof
Posted 07/25/2008 3:27 PM
Anonymous says,
Yay! Lets put down Bush for telling a lie! Lets just forgot about Clinton lying to the US about getting head in the White House!
Posted 07/25/2008 3:31 PM
Anonymous says,
Bush lied about Iraq being an imminent threat. Lets say you are right. So we went to war and now the world hates us. OK. I am living with that. Now lets say you are wrong. We dont go in. Saddam gets nukes into US. We are all dead. Hmmmm....Door A or Door B? Thankfully we have a commander in chief with balls.
Posted 07/25/2008 5:37 PM

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